851/ST4S hybrid

sp2 boy

Steve, generally if it has no papers it usually means that you end up with a 'Q plate', however I have heard that positive id verification through a 'factory approved club' giving identity and age that an age related plate will be given.

I believe that DOCGB is the relevant UK club and perhaps Mr R would know who to contact and they can then confirm if this is true or not.

Good luck!

Imola

sp2 boy wroteSteve, generally if it has no papers it usually means that you end up with a 'Q plate', however I have heard that positive id verification through a 'factory approved club' giving identity and age that an age related plate will be given. I believe that DOCGB is the relevant UK club and perhaps Mr R would know who to contact and they can then confirm if this is true or not. Good luck!

Peter, I'm a member of the DOCGB and not heard about that, I'll have a look
at the lastest desmo mag..........

Steve K

Imola

Yes the DOCGB have a guy who deals with bike dating service . 😄
I have sent him a email asking about 888 frames and getting a v5 etc

dhumphrys

Hi, your first call should be to Ducati UK on 08451 222 996. They'll be able to tell you from the VIN (frame number) whether the bike was ever registered in the UK, if so they should be able to tell you what the reg was.

Assuming the bike wasn't written off it would be a simple case of applying to the DVLA for a logbook.

If it wasn't a UK bike then yes, DOCGB can date it for you, BUT only when it's a complete bike and only if it's built to original specification. If any of the major components are non-original (ie an ST4 engine!) you may still be looking at a Q plate, in which case your bike may have to meet all current legislation regarding emissions, safety equipment etc...

I found all this out when I accidentally bought a race frame a couple of years back. I gave up on that because there was no way I was ever going to pull together the correct components to get it dated.

Fingers crossed for you mate!

Imola wroteYes the DOCGB have a guy who deals with bike dating service . 😄 I have sent him a email asking about 888 frames and getting a v5 etc

Imola

dhumphrys wroteHi, your first call should be to Ducati UK on 08451 222 996. They'll be able to tell you from the VIN (frame number) whether the bike was ever registered in the UK, if so they should be able to tell you what the reg was. Assuming the bike wasn't written off it would be a simple case of applying to the DVLA for a logbook. If it wasn't a UK bike then yes, DOCGB can date it for you, BUT only when it's a complete bike and only if it's built to original specification. If any of the major components are non-original (ie an ST4 engine!) you may still be looking at a Q plate, in which case your bike may have to meet all current legislation regarding emissions, safety equipment etc... I found all this out when I accidentally bought a race frame a couple of years back. I gave up on that because there was no way I was ever going to pull together the correct components to get it dated. Fingers crossed for you mate!

Thanks Darren
The frame in the pics 1992 851 comes with no Doc's and is a french registered
so i believe!
Not much hope really then as i don't have a 888 0r 851 motor.
Steve K

Imola

Sorry another question 😄

There is a 851/888 frame on ebay german registered with all doc's etc..
If i use this frame to build the bike then register it with dvla c/w german docs
will i get hassle or is it straight forward ?
Sorry again if i missed something 😱

Also what would you guys pay for a frame with german docs ?

Thanks in advance
Steve K

dhumphrys

Hi Steve

Not 100% but I think this is correct:

A vehicle imported from another EU country can be re-registered in the UK as long as the make/model is part of the 'Mutual Recognition Scheme'. This means that the vehicle in question is tested and accepted as suitable for use in all EU countries.

The problem here might be the age of an 851 or 888, just a guess but I think the Mutual Recognition scheme is a recent thing and probably only covers newer models.

Have a look here for details:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/ImportingAndExportingAVehicle/DG_10028413

Otherwise I guess you'd have to go through an SVA test to ensure you've got an MPH speedo, left dipping lights etc. I'm not sure if the German logbook would be useful or not in this case, maybe you'd end up with a Q plate? Anyone else got experience of this?

Price-wise, I've seen that frame on eBay a few times. The price seems a bit high to me but I guess you've got to balance that with the fact that frames with logbooks come up for sale VERY rarely.

I guess if I was in Germany or if it was a UK frame with a logbook I'd think it was worth it. I'm just not sure I'd pay that much with no guarantee that I could ever get it registered here.

I went through two un-registered frames before hitting gold with a rough but complete 851 for £1500. I made more than that stripping it and selling off the bits I didn't need.

Have you thought about cutting your losses and holding out for a complete bike? You could flog the parts you've already amassed and it could work out cheaper in the long run!

Regards
Darren

Imola wroteSorry another question 😄 There is a 851/888 frame on ebay german registered with all doc's etc.. If i use this frame to build the bike then register it with dvla c/w german docs will i get hassle or is it straight forward ? Sorry again if i missed something 😱 Also what would you guys pay for a frame with german docs ? Thanks in advance Steve K

Imola

dhumphrys wroteImporting vehicles into the UK - register imported vehicles, GB conversion IVA scheme, type approval, vehicle excise duty and VAT

Hi Darren
Thanks for the link

EXCEPTIONS: Countries we can accept applications from: We can accept vehicles imported from all European countries if the application to VCA includes a full, original, European Certificate of Conformity. Age of vehicle: If your motorbike / moped etc. is over 10 years of age, based on the date of first registration, it is exempt from this VCA procedure. The changes outlined later in this application would, in most cases, still need to be made, but please contact DVLA to discuss vehicle registration

Reading the form, bikes older than 10 years old are exempt from VCA
But you need proof that the headlight is changed and speedo to mph.
They also state to call dvla to discuss registration of older bikes imported from
EEC countries.
I will give them a call 😄

The guy selling the 851 frame has turned down a offer of £500 so i'll leave him to it!

Once again thanks for your help Darren.

Cheers
Steve K

sp2 boy

I have a friend who imports cars from Japan that are over 10 years old, he buys about three a year. When they arrive at the UK docks he gets a local garage to fit a foglight and a mph conversion, he then books an MOT and then sends all the paperwork to the DVLA. A registration document and road tax then appear about a fortnight later. he orders a plate and hey presto...all done!

Imola

sp2 boy wroteI have a friend who imports cars from Japan that are over 10 years old, he buys about three a year. When they arrive at the UK docks he gets a local garage to fit a foglight and a mph conversion, he then books an MOT and then sends all the paperwork to the DVLA. A registration document and road tax then appear about a fortnight later. he orders a plate and hey presto...all done!

My Brother in law bought a jap import hilux surf from a auction in bristol and did the same.
All sorted in a few weeks 😄

Now some good news!

The member who sold me the tank has offered me a 888 strada frame c/w
all german doc's 😁

Imola

I now have been contacted by 5 people selling 888 frames..........
I starting to think they are hoping to sell at boom prices in a bust world 😄
I'm not a fool Chaps!

marvin

Imola wroteI now have been contacted by 5 people selling 888 frames.......... I starting to think they are hoping to sell at boom prices in a bust world 😄 I'm not a fool Chaps!

Well, they are made out of gold! 😏

Imola

marvin wrote

Oh dear. I think I just panned some gold after seeing the lastest frame offer
And all docs needed. How do I convince my wife its a investment!

sp2 boy

Imola wroteOh dear. I think I just panned some gold after seeing the lastest frame offer And all docs needed. How do I convince my wife its a investment!

Take her shoe or handbag shopping, allegedly I hear that flowers go a long way also but I don't do that, guess that's why I am single! 😁

Imola

After visiting my good friend steve mr r (good to see you steve)
I have decided which frame to go for.
A mint fully documented s1 888 frame.
Steve k. Loving working in cornwall

vij

Imola wroteAfter visiting my good friend steve mr r (good to see you steve) I have decided which frame to go for. A mint fully documented s1 888 frame. Steve k. Loving working in cornwall

S1 888 frame. So you dont like the S3 race frame 😄

Imola

vij wroteS1 888 frame. So you dont like the S3 race frame 😄

Not at 700 euros with no doc's mate 😄

surfking

Frame for Imola

Imola
Were you looking for one of these ?

Nick

hotballs

sorry but i dont see any photos of said bike. where are they?

iconic944ss

hotballs wrotesorry but i dont see any photos of said bike. where are they?

x2

😉

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