ECU EPROM Images

johnboy888

Some P8 ECU images for 888 Strada/SPO. Unzip to get the "bin" file for programming.

P8_888_210_EE32 is the standard Strada EPROM image
(Standard Pipes and closed airbox) checksum is EE32

P8_888_038B_F316 is the SPO 038B EPROM image
(? pipes and ? airbox) checksum is F316

P8_888_FIMDAM_AA19 is the FIM DAM Megazone EPROM Image
(Open Staintune pipes and closed airbox) checksum is AA19

P8_888_SilMoto_6C3C is the SilMotor "888Strada" EPROM Image
(? pipes and / airbox) checksum is 6C3C

Checksum.zip contains a little windows program I wrote to generate the checksum for the bin files, using the standard byte addition method as used by most EPROM programmers. I use the Genius G540 programmer.

If anyone can update my comments about pipes/airbox or provide more images that would be great.

Cheers,
John

P8_888_038B_F316.zip

10.63KB

P8_888_FIMDAM_AA19.zip

11.72KB

P8_888_SilMoto_6C3C.zip

5.80KB

P8_888_210_EE32.zip

10.59KB

CHECKSUM.zip

28.09KB

mikesps

16m standard 748 file
16m standard 916 file
P8 996SPS 071 original exhausts
P8 996SPS 073 Termi exhausts

16m 748.zip

16.66KB

16m 916.zip

16.38KB

P8 996_SPS_071_512.zip

10.87KB

P8 996_SPS_073_512.zip

10.89KB

jakepeewee

eproms.zip contains:
015.bin 888/SPS '91 Standaard
020.bin 888/SP3 '91 -3%
021.bin 888/SP3 '91 +3%
022.bin 888/SP3 '91 +6%
023.bin 907? ?
035.bin 851 '92 Standaard
037.bin 888/SP4 '92 Standaard
038.bin 888/SP0 '93 Standaard
040.bin 888/SP5 '93 Standaard
043.bin 888/Corsa '93 -6%
059.bin 748
748BIPO5.bin 748 '05?
996SPS.bin 996SPS (P8)

eproms.zip

92.78KB

johnboy888

Some info on EPROM numbers

Some info on EPROM numbers from various books.

vij

Does some one have a XDF file for P7 and P8? I have one for P16 but thats all.

Jocke.........

dhumphrys

ST4 open pipes and airbox - 965058AAA

16M EPROM image for the ST4 with open pipes and airbox, Ducati part number 965058AAA.

ST4 open pipes..zip

22.48KB

freqrider

Re: xdf file

vij wroteDoes some one have a XDF file for P7 and P8? I have one for P16 but thats all. Jocke.........

I found them on the Guzzidiag website.

http://www.von-der-salierburg.de/download/GuzziDiag/

Scroll down near the bottom, the xdf's are there.
Obviously for Guzzis but fuel maps and most parameters seem to work!
Can anyone concur or provide a better solution? I have been looking for the elusive xdf for years! It's nice to finally see the maps in 3D rather than binhex!

freqrider

freqrider wroteGuzziDiag and tools for ECUs used by Moto Guzzi and others

Hmm? The P8 xdf seems to be fine, at least the fuel/ignition maps? I tried the P7 xdf to view a few P7 .bins in Tunerpro and it doesn't seem correct? I posted the xdf's link here so hopefully, someone more knowledgeable can make these more Ducati specific? If you can please post your changes back here! Thanks! Proceed with caution!

P7_GuzziDiag_16k_V.zip

2.03KB

P8_GuzziDiag_32k_V.zip

2.42KB

freqrider

Eproms in TunerPro

johnboy888 wroteSome P8 ECU images for 888 Strada/SPO. Unzip to get the "bin" file for programming. P8_888_210_EE32 is the standard Strada EPROM image (Standard Pipes and closed airbox) checksum is EE32 P8_888_038B_F316 is the SPO 038B EPROM image (? pipes and ? airbox) checksum is F316 P8_888_FIMDAM_AA19 is the FIM DAM Megazone EPROM Image (Open Staintune pipes and closed airbox) checksum is AA19 P8_888_SilMoto_6C3C is the SilMotor "888Strada" EPROM Image (? pipes and / airbox) checksum is 6C3C Checksum.zip contains a little windows program I wrote to generate the checksum for the bin files, using the standard byte addition method as used by most EPROM programmers. I use the Genius G540 programmer. If anyone can update my comments about pipes/airbox or provide more images that would be great. Cheers, John

I opened the above files in Tunerpro with this xdf, attached below. It appears that the Stada and Fimdam display identical fuel, ignition, tps, ect..to the stock 038 chip. The 038B displays a nice gradual increase in fuel delivery, as expected. (Interestingly, I took the stock038 bin and increased fuel delivery by 3, 5, 7 and 10 percent increments, and the 7% fuel map I created was virtually identical to the 038B Tuned Euro chip!!) The Silmoto bin came up all zeros so the maps must be at a different address. When I say Identical, Im referring to the 3D images generated by Tuner pro! A comparison of the binhex data shows they are vastly different in a coded sense? This has lead me to beleive my xdf file, for a Guzzi P8 may be incorrect or the aftermarket chips are encrypted? Or they're just ripping us off, selling us a stock chip! The 040, 996sps maps all exhibit larger fuel levels and increased spark advance? So it seems to read Ducati's bins correctly? Only the aftermarket bins seem the sameas the stock 038? Am I missing something? Any tuner geeks want to chime in and check the xdf over? I'd love a second opinion!

P8_GuzziDiag_32k_V.zip

2.42KB

brad black

strada is the base 888 eprom, also known as a 038. i have never seen one labelled 038 though, they always had 210 on them. fim DAM is an adjustable version of the 038 eprom, which you could then adjust with your hht. mapping is the same as std.

so yes, they should all look the same.

there is only 1 p8 eprom version afaik.

freqrider

Thanks again Brad!

Oh Brad! Thanks for your email address the other day! I know you said you prefer to answer my questions off of the forums, but I enjoy it so much more when you pop up randomly, out of the interwebs to share your vast wealth of knowledge and information, like some magical, motorcycle tuning genie! 😉 How many more wishes do I have?

I remembered hearing on the forum somewhere the Strada and US SPO was the same. So I wasnt too surprised. I assumed the fim chip was hopped up a bit, but it all makes perfect sense now.

freqrider

916 Strada P8 bin

Link to 916 Strada.bin P8 file.

916 Strada P8 435 192.02.zip

10.69KB

freqrider

SilMoto chip

I discovered the SilMoto chip has an ox0800 offset. Allow for this in the xdf's header and the tables are all there.

racerx

freqrider wroteI opened the above files in Tunerpro with this xdf, attached below. It appears that the Stada and Fimdam display identical fuel, ignition, tps, ect..to the stock 038 chip. The 038B displays a nice gradual increase in fuel delivery, as expected. (Interestingly, I took the stock038 bin and increased fuel delivery by 3, 5, 7 and 10 percent increments, and the 7% fuel map I created was virtually identical to the 038B Tuned Euro chip!!) The Silmoto bin came up all zeros so the maps must be at a different address. When I say Identical, Im referring to the 3D images generated by Tuner pro! A comparison of the binhex data shows they are vastly different in a coded sense? This has lead me to beleive my xdf file, for a Guzzi P8 may be incorrect or the aftermarket chips are encrypted? Or they're just ripping us off, selling us a stock chip! The 040, 996sps maps all exhibit larger fuel levels and increased spark advance? So it seems to read Ducati's bins correctly? Only the aftermarket bins seem the sameas the stock 038? Am I missing something? Any tuner geeks want to chime in and check the xdf over? I'd love a second opinion!

A correctly modified chip wont just have a % increase across the board....motors don't work that way! Although I had many ask for this usually unusable mod. If you came up all zeros, you are correct, you may need to look elsewhere in the file. The chips could be 128, 256 0r 512 with the data shifted to match. Guzzi chips are different but the same, there is a part of the file that specifies the map parameters but the fuel delivery is amazingly the same across motors. Be wary of the injection phase map.

freqrider

Although not optimal, very workable results can be achieved by adding a percenntage overall to the fuel map. After all, that is precisely what changing jets and adjusting air/fuel ratio screws on carburators do. In fact, Ducati has offered tuning chips with bracket -3 to +6% percent increment changes for several bikes including corsas! When I get my hands on a dyno and some wb o2 sensors I'll do it proper and develop a delta map for it. Till then it's my only option.

freqrider

Anyone have a '91 SP2 eprom? I'm looking for comparison. Someone on another forum said he heard the SP4 eprom works well in the sp2, which I am highly skeptical. Thanks!

MarkT

I used an FIM SP4 chip for over 18 years on my SP2-- as recommended by Bruce of BCM. No additional tuning was required but I believe that it had the potential to produce a bit more power because Bruce said to turn up the fuel pressure a bit if it still had any flat spots. Even though I own an FIM handheld, I kept it at 3 bar with no additional tuning. I sold her a few years ago. The new owner has no complaints. He had it gone over by Brian at Bolder motors and they complimented how it ran. The stock SP2 chip had many flat spots and was almost unrideable -- especially if you wanted to have fun with the bike. It was a big letdown compared to my first 851 which was a tuned single injector '89 851/888 track bike. I talked it over with Bruce and he sent me the FIM chip which transformed my bike. I bought the SP2 in '97 and installed the FIM chip in '98 and never put the stock chip back in. My opinion is that the factory had not gotten the SP2-or even the SP3 chips quite right until the SP4 so I would not assume that the SP2 chip was a good standard to go by when comparing its fuel and ignition maps to the SP4 maps. I have never ridden another stock SP2 or any other SP. By '98 my passion became building, restoring, and tracking Corses so I never owned or ridden another street 851 or 888. For that reason I cannot say that my SP2 was not a good example of how other SP2s functioned with their stock chips.

freqrider

Thanks Mark. Do you recall if it was an Ultimap chip or MegaZone? I believe the Ultimap chip had just a standard Ducati map which was then augmented with the HHT. Not sure about MegaZone. At least my 888 SPO Ultimap had identical map to the factory. I would imagine the tweaks to the maps were retained on the chip's daughterboard.

MarkT

Sorry- I have not been able to answer you since I could not log in again- but it seems that Jim was able to get this fixed.

I actually do not remember but I think it was an Ultimap chip. I am stretching my memory but I recall that Ultimaps were not simply programmed with the stock fuel, ignition, and trim maps that you can modify with the HHH. Each chip contained a revised fuel and ignition map for specific setups that Duane ran on a dyno. Open airbox, larger exhaust as an example. As you know you could program and overall trim or trim the 7 zones.

I keep getting an ERROR box come up while I am typing this so I going to post and see what happens before I stretch my memory any further.

jakepeewee

freqrider wroteAnyone have a '91 SP2 eprom? I'm looking for comparison. Someone on another forum said he heard the SP4 eprom works well in the sp2, which I am highly skeptical. Thanks!

The SP2 engine (valves/camshafts), injectors and ECU (P7) are virtually identical to the SP3 and SP4 engine. I used the SP4 eprom in my SP3, worked really well.