Corse getting the works

scott 888

Hi All

Seen at a UK Ducati dealers workshops recently a very nice Corse getting the full treatment.

I wonder if the owner is indeed a forum member?.

Scott

desmo57

mmm... very nice! But there are a couple of things not quite right...front brake discs, cam covers look modern, alternator cover and top yoke look to be painted..
But I wouldn't mind having it in my garage though!

MC Leather

Fork internals and caps look odd too. But I wouldn't kick her out of the garage ;-)

Foggy 888

Front wheel and brake rotor are standard street-bike items, not Corsa. Rear axle looks too small in diameter. Forks and triple clamps look wrong as well. Looks like a Corsa built up from parts.

sp2 boy

Wow, Scott would I be correct in saying fair dinkum that it is a flaming hot example? 😉

Mr.R

Foggy 888 wroteFront wheel and brake rotor are standard street-bike items, not Corsa. Rear axle looks too small in diameter. Forks and triple clamps look wrong as well. Looks like a Corsa built up from parts.

I beg to differ...
That front wheel's a Mag' Mavic or similar, they've got a completely different shaped rim section to the road Brembo's and the rear spindle looks like a "Big" one to me, the hole in the middle's waaay to big for a standard spindle.

Do I get a gold badge for my anorak?

Steve R

scott 888

Mr.R wroteI beg to differ... That front wheel's a Mag' Mavic or similar, they've got a completely different shaped rim section to the road Brembo's and the rear spindle looks like a "Big" one to me, the hole in the middle's waaay to big for a standard spindle. Do I get a gold badge for my anorak? Steve R

HI

Tick VG and a gold star Steve.

Scott

851corsa

Isn't that a road bike swing arm?

Terry.

MarkT

851corsa wroteIsn't that a road bike swing arm? Terry.

And you also earn a gold star

sp2 boy

What makes it a road going swingarm, I thought the late Corse swingarms had the hole for locating the rear brake mounting locator?

Mr.R

So it's a "Bitsa" it still looks a nice piece of kit and I'm sure the owners pleased with it unless he paid "Top $" thinking he/she was buying the real deal. 😯
Maybe it's a "Corserised" SP as raced in the BSB etc like I mentioned in another thread?

I agree with the other lads re: the yokes/triple trees, swingingarm, topend cam support blocks etc, but apart from the shiney paint the alternator cover looks like a Corsa mag' one to me...
I've got a couple of them as a reference although mine are now painted green, as it was the only zinc chromate I could find at the time.
The "Baby Shit" yellow festered in my workshop before the bike ever hit the road with either of them, my NOS one $$$'s started to degrade the moment that I took it out of it's original packing!

Steve R

851corsa

Mr.R wrote........."Corserised".........

Road bike until proven otherwise.

These period images show the 91-94 Customer bikes.

Terry

851corsa

I have only seen one other example where this AGIP decal has survived.

Terry

Tom Roberts

851corsa wroteRoad bike until proven otherwise. These period images show the 91-94 Customer bikes. Terry

The arrogance of some of the people on this site is beyond belief ....

Before you go ahead and rubbish another's bike, do some research first and if you spoke to the restorer of this particular bike (who has more Corse knowledge than most of the so called 'experts' put together) you may find a rather different story ......

The fact that certain items may not be period correct do not turn a Corse machine into a road bike .....

Wake up lads and get off the Xmas sherry ....

Tom

Jasper

Tom has a GOOD point IMHO.Sometimes we are too quick to rip a genuine Corsa apart because some parts are not EXACTLY as you would expect. That does not mean it is not genuine.Why can we not say FANTASTIC bike,i wonder what the history is?,before we IMMEDIATELY go down the "it's a fake" route,which seems to be happening alot recently?

Just my opinion.

Jasper

851corsa wroteIsn't that a road bike swing arm? Terry.

I can't tell if its 25mm shorter than a Corsa one.

I think Mark T has said,some of the Corsas had standard length swingams,but with 23mm spindles.

851corsa

Tom,

Challenge the logic of my viewpoint rather than try and put words in my mouth.

Terry.

desmo57

Jasper wroteTom has a GOOD point IMHO.Sometimes we are too quick to rip a genuine Corsa apart because some parts are not EXACTLY as you would expect. That does not mean it is not genuine.Why can we not say FANTASTIC bike,i wonder what the history is?,before we IMMEDIATELY go down the "it's a fake" route,which seems to be happening alot recently? Just my opinion.

Maybe because this thread is called "Corse getting the works"?

MarkT

Tom Roberts wroteThe arrogance of some of the people on this site is beyond belief .... than most of the so called 'experts' put together) you may find a rather different story ...... The fact that certain items may not be period correct do not turn a Corse machine into a road bike ..... Tom

Hi Tom-

I hope you have cooled off a bit. I have known John and his son for many many years and I agree --he knows about everything you can know about these bikes. But in your haste to defend him you feel the need to insult everyone else that also has knowledge about these bikes. I am not sure who you were pointing a finger at when you said the above but I was hoping this section of the forum would not be used to berate people you do not know -or what they know.

I agree with Jasper that each bike has a history that dictates what we see on the bike in it current form. I felt this would be what would make the Corse section interesting--- civil discussion among members.

I always assumed that current Corse's (restored or not) will often have a mix of period correct parts, (factory and non factory), and parts that may not be period correct but at least allows the bike to be in running condition. As we have seen-- many bikes were modified throughout their lifetime to win races or just to keep them competitive - often using non factory parts for a variety of reasons. All of them are unique and valuable.

I am sure many bikes that will be put in the Gallery did not start out as factory Customer or Works bikes- they were assembled. Without the history most will assume they are looking at a bike that came from the factory and judge it based upon that premise.

This is why in my original statements about this section I emphasized that each bike needs to be presented along with its HISTORY. The purpose of the "Gallery" was to present pictures (period and current) of Corse bikes and to provide a history if it is known----and to point out the parts that are not original factory Corse parts so no forum member gets false information about what actually came originally on FACTORY bikes. This is not meant to DEGRADE any bike that does not have factory original parts- because it may never had them-- but to educate. It may actually be as "original" as it always was--just not " factory original".

In short--the "Gallery" is intended to be used as a Reference guide.

So ----when a forum member puts a picture in the gallery without history you can be sure a number of members will point out what they think is "wrong" with the bike---this is more common then pointing out what is "factory correct" about the bike. Perhaps we should start each discussion with what we think is "factory correct"l before pointing out what is not original. Or we should first put pictures in the general discussion area and when the discussion is over I will move the core sections of the discussion to the Gallery.

I am trying to let the discussions run their course but would appreciate no insults against other members -

Jasper

Nice Comments Mark.