RWG
Hi Folk, Hope you & families are all well and safe.
My Delemia is that i decided to have my paintwork on my 1988 Tricolore re painted due mainly because the Tank had faiided. so much, Think I am regretting my decision now.
The problem I have is both side fairing & seat unit is given the painter a nightmare, just to say Joe Ramos is painting my bike as has done half a dozen in the past Firstly a Great professional and quality job.
Now that said, back to problem.
He has tried on a couple of occasions to paint the fairing side and seat unit but the primer start to cracks after a few days, he has never had this before following his normal procedure, being fibreglass he can not remove all Original paint without Risking damage to Gel coat. He Thanks the Original paint might have some sort of silicone or similar within.
Has anyone experianced this type of problem with early fibreglass fairings (1988)
Can anyone give Direction please, this is my seconde Tricolore which I have owned for 20 years. Truthfully I am gutted with this new from Joe, I can not imagine being without this old gill.
Regards
Paul
griff851
Silicon based polish. That might be the issue. A little story. Ever year there was an around Australia air race. The RAAF entered, well because it has aircraft and it's a good publicity thing. We entered A HS 748 and an F111 every year. Of coarse the F111 won out right, but because of handicapping the HS 748 did alright, but never a class win.
Aircraft use nitrocellulose paint which oxidises so you dust like finish. ( helps when trying not to be seen). Anyway our chief engineer gave the order to polish the hs748 to make it slippery, a fair call, however... he rolled up with a box of polish and ordered is to get going. I remember one of the boys making a comment along the lines of 'Sir the books says we can't do this. Of coarse the reply was it's an order.
The plane looked very shiny. It one is class, the officer was even more smug than he normally was.
3 months later, the major service was done, then the aircraft sent to Sydney. A week later, a call came through from the paint shop. 'Which f*** wot polished the plane with silicon based polish?. The result. The silicon gone through the paint and undercoat and into the aluminium. The paint wouldn't stick. The aircraft was written off as being non airworthy, and we never saw it again.
Unlucky 'Sir there goes any chance of ever being promoted. 😁. He was a dick anyway.
Food for thought.
RWG
Wow, What a story. Me now thinking have I ever used silicone polish in last 20 years, It could be possable this is my longer ownership I have today bought 1990.
Do you know if this would effectivly wright off my Fibreglass
marvin
If it was mine I would try:
Sanding down through the original paint (screw the gel coat !) Wash thouroughly with a good degreaser and spray on several coats of epoxy primer. Let that dry and try and paint normally. If that doesn't work I guess ?????
griff851
Silicon doesn't penetrate gelcoat. You use a silicon wax for fibre glass moulds so they don't stick. Sorry should have mentioned that but too busy smirking to my self thinking about the 'Sir's career end move. I really didn't like the guy. Don't think he liked me much either. When I discharged he was the last signature I needed and he told me not to come back, the airforce doesn't want people like me. Odd because I fixed planes and he broke them. 😁
The other thing it's just something for your painter to consider. I did mention nitrocellulose paint. The auto industry generally doesn't use it because the oxidised look isn't a big thing, people like shiny cars and bike's😁
The other bit was there are fibre glass paint strippers available that won't trash the gelcoat.
Just on a side note people may or may not have known when getting a red bike painted, pink undercoat. All the red bike new panel work i've seen from the factory had it. Apparently it gives the red a better unique tone according to Bob. Sort of makes sense I guess.
RWG
Great story Griff and Thanks to you and Martin I have passed on your knowledge
Many thanks
Keep safe
