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    Default 851/888 racebike basketcase

    I just picked up an old racebike from the son of this man:

    http://www.speedwaybikes.com/rw/upaul_o.htm

    http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...e-with-cancer/

    The original 4v motor was blown up years ago and replaced with a 2v 944 and FCR 41's. It is very rough and has 916 front/side fairings with 851 tail. It has some extremely rare calipers, magnesium wheels in need of refurbishment, and some other nice bits, but most of the bike is very rough. I will be overhauling everything. The ugly paint will go, but the father's number 33 will remain. My plan is to keep this motor until next year or until I find a cheap ST4S donor.

    First step is to identify exactly what the bike is. The son thought it was an 888 and seemed to remember his father ordering it direct from Italy. That may explain the fact that the frame has no VIN stamped into the headstock. But it looks like an 851 frame. Is the subframe stock? Modified with the overflow tank? What about the aluminum fuel tank?

    So what is it?


    ***EDIT***
    With Photobucket off the rails, it looks like all the photos will have to be reposted using another site or methods. This will probably begin on page 22.
    Last edited by nine16; 07-05-2017 at 04:14 PM.
    '01 996R, '94 888 SPO Ltd, '88 851 Adamo racebike, '91 ZX-7R K1 homologation, '89 NSR250 MC18r5k, '01 Derbi GPR50/75, '71 CB450/500 café.

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    More pics of the teardown.
    Last edited by nine16; 07-05-2017 at 04:12 PM.
    '01 996R, '94 888 SPO Ltd, '88 851 Adamo racebike, '91 ZX-7R K1 homologation, '89 NSR250 MC18r5k, '01 Derbi GPR50/75, '71 CB450/500 café.

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    Some interesting old race bikes coming out of the back of garages these days.

    I will take a crack at this----looks like it started out as a street 851 (frame, suspension with a few interesting race parts, (rims, front calipers, GaCaMoto cans). The rear sub- frame seems to be an updated aluminum 851 SP piece.

    Nice modification to the aluminum 851 tank- external quick connects and front slide in mounts (or something like that). What is the modification on the top of it- air pocket?

    The rear suspension rocker is very interesting- not stock- looks like a billet piece which is very rare if it is factory.

    I cannot get a bead on the bodywork- almost 916.


    Just noticed the extra tube for the exhaust muffler support- that is something I have not seen before
    Last edited by MarkT; 02-10-2015 at 08:28 PM. Reason: muffler support tube

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    Yeah, the front and belly pan and 916. Rocker is clearly for adjustable ratio. I'll double check--it's definitely aluminum, but looked cast, not billet.

    Couple more shots--Veglia tach and older radial brake master.
    Last edited by nine16; 05-15-2018 at 10:19 PM.
    '01 996R, '94 888 SPO Ltd, '88 851 Adamo racebike, '91 ZX-7R K1 homologation, '89 NSR250 MC18r5k, '01 Derbi GPR50/75, '71 CB450/500 café.

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    What a fun project!

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    Got the bike all stripped down on Saturday. Now the frame and a lot of other parts are off for blasting before being gusseted and corsa-fied.



    '01 996R, '94 888 SPO Ltd, '88 851 Adamo racebike, '91 ZX-7R K1 homologation, '89 NSR250 MC18r5k, '01 Derbi GPR50/75, '71 CB450/500 café.

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    Going to have to figure out to repair or replace these front tank mounts.



    '01 996R, '94 888 SPO Ltd, '88 851 Adamo racebike, '91 ZX-7R K1 homologation, '89 NSR250 MC18r5k, '01 Derbi GPR50/75, '71 CB450/500 café.

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    Is anyone else glued to this thread, hitting refresh to see the next instalment every 30 mins?

    Thanks to all for posting/sharing....and the pictures.

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    Can't wait to see the bike together again.

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    Hi All,
    I'm Bryan, Paul's other son. I met Adam(the man who has the bike now) by pure chance when I was trying to get rid of an old wheel. I hadn't even considered letting this bike go, as it has a ton of sentimental value to Chris, Julia, and the whole family, but after talking with Adam more and more, the bike entered the conversation. The more I talked to Adam, the more confident I was that he was the guy that could treat the bike with the respect it deserves and do something special with it. Plus, it was clear that he is a die-hard Duc fan. I started to consider the possibility of letting the bike go so that Adam could breathe new life into it. I knew that I was never going to be able to restore it myself, so the bike was just collecting dust in my garage. Letting the bike slowly die in my garage was not doing anyone any good, so I decided to go for it and let Adam work his magic on it so that the bike could live again and put a smile on somebody's face. My stipulation was that he keep me posted and send pictures.

    I didn't expect all of this history of the bike to come to light and I see that, as important as the bike is to my family and I, it had a life before my dad owned it and it is meaningful to more than just us. It sounds like Adam is trying to make a decision on what the best path is to take.

    Adam, If you are waiting for my weigh in, I would be happy to help make that decision. Can you summarize the current options that are available? I agree with Chris, that the Orlandi name should be on the bike, but I think we need to clearly understand exactly what the options are. Feel free to give me a call if it would be easier to discuss on a call.

    Sorry to join the conversation so late. I have been so buried lately that I have hardly had time to come up for air.

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