+ Reply to Thread
Page 18 of 18
FirstFirst ... 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
Results 171 to 180 of 180

Thread: 888 Sps #002

  1. #171
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    netherlands
    Posts
    223

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by tricolore View Post
    I only asked yesterday for Ducati to check the frame number on a 1993 888 SP5 and they came back with ZDM888S1*00....*

    I'll ask them to check again today.....Yes they have just confirmed the above is the correct frame number against the engine number ZDM888W4*......*

    Slightly different to Jarno but again factory records appear different to actual frame numbers ?
    I've read somewhere on the internet that 1993 and 1994 SP5 and Strada frames are identical so maybe those numbers are the same...
    The frames before 1993 where different because of the airbox so they have different numbers.

  2. #172
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    FRANCE
    Posts
    865

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by jarno888sps View Post
    I've read somewhere on the internet that 1993 and 1994 SP5 and Strada frames are identical so maybe those numbers are the same...
    The frames before 1993 where different because of the airbox so they have different numbers.
    ---> SP.5 means 1993, only !!!
    ---> Strada chassis from 93 and 94 are 100% identical with SP.5 chassis !!
    Except the figure "1" after "S" regarding Strada type, any other difference !!!

    ---> Chassis numbers from 92 (851 with white frame) are ZDM851S3*00xxxx*
    Even if they look like similar with 888 chassis (externally), the frame and the chassis references are different ...

    These explanations concern European frames only !!

    Phil911

  3. #173
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Wash. D.C. Burbs
    Posts
    377

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by jarno888sps View Post

    But why does my tag on the bike say SP4 080 and not SPS 080...
    Easy........we're dealing with Italians and they make their own (non) rules. They do what the want, when they want and how they want.

    Cheers.
    Mike Cecchini

    It's not what you ride.......it's how you ride it.

  4. #174
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Scotland
    Posts
    528

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by mrc.engr View Post
    I'm starting a new thread on this topic because I want it easily found by all and standing alone so it can be referred to easily and not burried in another thread.

    I'll post the new thread shortly.

    My best....... Mike
    Hi Mike

    Iam up for that a register of known plaque and frame numbers for the SPS from the factory, do you know Mike if the records also state the country of sale?.
    Do any other SPS owners on this forum have any other views?.

    All the best

    Scott

  5. #175
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Wash. D.C. Burbs
    Posts
    377

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by scott 888 View Post
    Hi Mike

    I am up for that a register of known plaque and frame numbers for the SPS from the factory, do you know Mike if the records also state the country of sale?.
    Do any other SPS owners on this forum have any other views?.

    All the best

    Scott
    Sorry...... but I must remove the frame numbers so they don't get into the wrong hands. For those of you that copied the frame numbers...... please......please keep these numbers to yourself.

    If someone needs to know if his SPS is genuine or a prospective buyer needs to know if the SPS is looking at is real, just have them send you the frame # and compare it to your list for validation.

    Please please do this for the rest of us with SPS machines so that fake frames cannot be stamped or altered and sold as genuine SPS.

    Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.

    If anyone needs SPS validation, I have the frame #'s and will assist all I can. Email me at mrc.engr@verizon.net or call me in Maryland USA at (301) 654-3751 east coast (new York) USA time zone

    My best..........Mike
    Last edited by mrc.engr; 08-13-2011 at 01:06 PM.
    Mike Cecchini

    It's not what you ride.......it's how you ride it.

  6. #176
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Wash. D.C. Burbs
    Posts
    377

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Bostrom View Post
    I just posted the Ducati 888 SPS No.15 on the Classifieds.
    The previous owner asked at the Factory if it was a real SPS, by sending them the Frame and Engine Numbers.
    They also couldnīt confirm, because the Numbers didnīt match in their books.
    If anyone is interested in those No.15 Numbers, send me a PM.

    P.S.
    Iīm very - very sorry to hear about that SPS No.002 Story....
    We really could do without such Guys!

    Frame numbers please. Send to mrc.engr@verizon.net

    Thanks........Mike
    Mike Cecchini

    It's not what you ride.......it's how you ride it.

  7. #177
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Wash. D.C. Burbs
    Posts
    377

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by scott 888 View Post
    Hi Mike

    Iam up for that a register of known plaque and frame numbers for the SPS from the factory, do you know Mike if the records also state the country of sale?.
    Do any other SPS owners on this forum have any other views?.

    All the best

    Scott
    Sorry..... I do not have country designations for SPS machines, but do understand they were designed and inteneded for the Italian Superbike Series and not designed with any EPA, DOT or emissions in mind.

    And while I didn't pose this specific question to Livio Lodi, Ducati's Museum Curator, I do believe he gave me what little SPS production information there was in Ducati records and this didn't come in his email to me.

    My best...... Mike
    Mike Cecchini

    It's not what you ride.......it's how you ride it.

  8. #178
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    154

    Default

    Hello Mike,

    I send you the E-mail you asked for.

    Regards,
    Martin

  9. #179
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Colorado
    Posts
    1

    Default Bob Smith experience

    New to this thread. My Bob Smith experience was with a rusty MHR Mille tank. After close to a thousand dollars of labor to clean it and coat it, it still has rust, and the coating is peeling. I was naïve, and worse, was convinced that fixing it would be better and cheaper than a new/used tank. At the time, I could have had one for about $500. Thanks for the info on these other guys on your list as I was considering purchasing something from one of them. I will seriously reconsider now.

    Quote Originally Posted by mrc.engr View Post
    Sad indeed, that the world has people like Marc Veld / MotoStretta. As far as I'm concerned Mr. Veld should suddenly have to close the business and be on the mend for several months.

    So yes, there's lots of sharks out there just waiting for those of us who still trust and believe. Mr. Veld has now been added to my "do not do business with" list that now includes:

    1. Bob Smith, (ex) North America Bimota Importer. For years I watched this slimeball take new bike deposits from customers and tell them their bike(s) would be delayed a few weeks as he sold their machines to impulse buyers he ran into all over the USA. Then the internet came into play the world got much smaller and Smith could no longer play his shell game. I went on lists and forums to warn people about Smith and I was astounded at the typical responses. "Bob Smith is a great guy, he sold me a spark plug on Sunday so I could get home for dinner". Amazingly those who got seriously screwed by Mr. Smith never did come forward year after year as he burnt his bridges behind him from 1994 to 2006.

    Then last year I was talking to a few still into Bimota motorcycles only to find out that Mr. Smith seems to be M.I.A. with over a million of investors money. When this hit the net.....all of a sudden there were postings left and right about how Smith had screwed them and they'd never do business with him again. DUH !!!

    2. Next we have Bob Miller of Miller Specialties, Clinton, Connecticut, USA. He screwed 2 of my friends out of slightly over $8000 usd and he took total and complete advantage of a young lad who brought his bike in for repairs. Miller asked for $1000 in advance as the lad was going off to fight in the Iraq war. Then 3 weeks later when the lad asked how the repairs were coming, Miller asked for another $1800 so the repairs could be completed.

    Hearing this and quite pissed, I drove from Maryland to Connecticut (some 400 miles) and walked in the front door of Miller Specialties to find Bob Miller sitting on the floor having just cut the main wiring harness in half with a set of dykes. He looked up and somehow knew who I was and what I came to his shop for. To this day I cannot figure out how he knew this, but all he said was: "You know all about electrics, so you take this "........ and that's exactly what I did. I put the machine and all the bits into my trailer and drove it all up to BCM Ducati to Bruce Myers and dropped it off for Bruce to make it right. 3 days later Bruce called me and said the bike was ready. I asked what the bill was. $25 for a set of alternator brushes and $250 to put the wiring harness back together".

    I posted my experience(s) with Bob Miller / Miller Specialties to warn others. The typical responses were: "Bob Miller is a great guy he adjusted my carbs one day while I waited." Then about a year later, Miller Specialties was no longer in business due to Bob's poor health. Then the stories of how Bob Miller did poor work and had screwed people emerged by the dozens.

    3. Next on the list is Steve Monroe of "Loudbike", http://loudbike.blogs.com/loud_bike/ . A IT type that is quite use to looking customers right in the eye and telling them "we can design you a business running program and set-up your company website to do exactly what you need done" ......and knowing full well he's just lied through his teeth. Then he asks for a 20% deposit which is usually in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, then goes back to his home to take some standard programs, slaps them together with fancy presentations and VIOLA !!....... a 2 million dollar sale. Once the money has been transferred, he's off in search of another customer while the past customers try and make his programs work, which they rarely do.

    Now take this mentality and transfer it into building custom motorcycles for well heeled (ignorant) clients. This is what Loudbike is all about. Find well funded customer who wants to quickly get into the latest rage ......Italian motorcycles.......then repeat his IT scam. Some time ago I came across Steve Monroe who had just joined forces with noted Ducati engine builder, Guy Martin who was a long time friend of mine. Seeing an opportunity to have a bike built while I worked on 3 other on-going Ducati projects, I asked them to put together a 750 bevel for me.....and what a mess it turned out to be. I'll not bore you with all the details, but needless to say I smelt the end of my Monroe relationship coming and I managed to beat the man at his own game. I came away with a rather nice machine mostly done, but needed a complete going over, which I can easily do. Thank God Guy Martin built the motor, so this major part of the project is fine.

    Last year I started to warn others about Steve Monroe / Loudibke and the responses were: Steve's a great guy and he sold me a pair of shocks and I got a real deal on them. So far, Steve Monroe is still alive and still doing Loudbike business......but without Guy Martin as it seems they've had a falling out when some $6000 usd of on-line sales funds were missing.

    I suspect those who have gotten the short-end of Mr. Monroe will come out of the wood-work when Monroe dies....... so until then I'll do my part.

    4. Finally we come to David Brown of DB Cycles, Lima New York http://www.db-cycles.com/ who sells a lot of Ducks and Duc parts on Ebay. Don't trust this guy and don't send any money until you are sure of what you are getting. I've posted a couple of warnings and have gotten the typical "He's a great guy because he sold me a good used tire one day", but since Mr. Brown is still alive... it seems those who he's screwed still might want to do business with him, they aren't saying anything ( I guess ) until the slimeball dies.

    Apologies for being long-winded........but I wanted to pass along the present list with a little background on each so you would get a feel for each.

    #5 Presently I am trying to persuade one of the largest USA Bevel parts suppliers to stop selling certain bogus parts that either just do not work......or the parts damage motors. This may not sound relevant here, but he's getting into other Ducati parts, so it looks like some here might be tempted to do business with him in the future.


    In conclusion......

    Air fares are cheap when compared to 10k--50k purchases. Also, there's expertise on both sides of the pond available to ensure one is getting what they are led to believe. Even paying for a full prep and a dyno run would have determined if #002 has anything near it's original spec motor. Personally I believe the motor has been changed out......or even had a strada motor installed........so only a dyno run could tell this, so 1000--1500 euro would be well spent me thinks.

    Also there's two SP4s's at http://www.camamotoren.nl/occasions/...ons-zoeken.php . One is suppose to be #033, which is starting to look like a frame neck transplant and bitsa. The would give the frame stamping number, but not the engine number. They wouldn't give any information about the second SP4S, saying it was not for sale.

    All in all, with this Forum and the List...... both will serve to warn perspective buyers of #002 & #033 that both machines need to be completely and fully inspected before funds transfer.

  10. #180
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Wash. D.C. Burbs
    Posts
    377

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Dcphoto202 View Post
    New to this thread. My Bob Smith experience was with a rusty MHR Mille tank. After close to a thousand dollars of labor to clean it and coat it, it still has rust, and the coating is peeling. I was naïve, and worse, was convinced that fixing it would be better and cheaper than a new/used tank. At the time, I could have had one for about $500. Thanks for the info on these other guys on your list as I was considering purchasing something from one of them. I will seriously reconsider now.
    Hi DCPhoto,

    Sorry to hear of your Bob Smith experience. Hope you managed to have your MHR gas tank properly cleaned and coated by now. Smith is still MIA with the FBI still looking for him.

    My best........ Mike Cecchini in Bethesda, Maryland
    Mike Cecchini

    It's not what you ride.......it's how you ride it.

+ Reply to Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts